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maxxpump
I am a musician from the south of the UK, I like making music and playing with my synths. I've made game music and electronic music professionally in the past. I aim to keep on designing delightful and complex music for many years to come.

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What is Dubstep, as time goes on I'm getting more confused!

Posted by maxxpump - June 3rd, 2017


You know people can be so cruel sometimes, i.e: I put a track up on Soundcloud which was a Dubstep/EDM piece (which I've now put up onto Newgrounds which you can find here: http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/748116?updated=1496513125). I've spent maybe two days on and off on the project, which I've made all my own sounds and been doing advanced sampling using Serum, made all my own drum kits, fiddled and spent maybe half a day mixing it. What do I get firstly a bunch of comments stating that I must be some child as it sounds like I'm using presets, well I can handle that, but then you get other people who say "hey, you know this doesn't sound like Dubstep" Well I've extensively studied drum patterns which skrillex uses, I've got my sounds to sound nice and deep like people like ZerryX, I've spent time chopping up different channels, mix downs of serum at different modulation rates, chopped and reversed some sections. Yeah I know my sound doesn't sound as clean as some one like Skrillex, but you know I am trying my hardest, what is Dubstep actually meant to sound like? I thought it originated from most different styles of EDM and Reggae music, and is an eclectic mix of different styles.

But no time and again I get people tell me, No! thats not dubstep, it has to sound exactly like Bangarang to be Dubstep? which is odd because this isn't the only sound used and its not the only artist which makes Dubstep on the planet. I tell you I'm really confused to what people want from me. Do you want me to make more like this (http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/700864) which is Dubstep, don't give a flying twat what anyone says on that, as you know it's the right tempo, the right drums and the right soundset, but still I get told its not Dubstep...Yeah I know i'm not Skrillex or ZerryX, I don't want to be like them, yes I might aspire to them, but the last thing I want to do is to start copying people and be like Derp, i've made a another Game Over (which I think is a pretty cool song, but I would never try to emulate it as I want to build on my own style). 

I guess I could always just stop...go back to cubase and make another dance tune, but I'm attempting to get away from sounding like some generic DJ...i.e. Tiesto, cough! I would like to explore my own avenue of sound and release music that I find fun making. Bahhh! I hate always been forced to make something so generic, that A.) the masses would love, B.) makes loads of money super quick, I'm not really in it for financial gain, but you know studio doesn't buy itself. I want to be a innovator like Mr Jarre or Mr Moroder, but being an innovator in this day and age is extremely hard, because when it comes to most of the generalised styles, everything's been done. We're technically just recycling old musical chord sequences, doing a bit of a song and dance to jazz it up and make it sound original. But as I said I would just love to get away from the rest of the sheep, and be a wolf!   


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I've listened to your track Radium 2, and I can see the problem. I'ts really good, but it doesn't sound much like dubstep. Here's a few things I can suggest to make it sound more like dubstep *(Keep in mind I'm not an ace in dubstep)* :

1) Make the drums louder. Most of the time, a good dubstep song explodes your headphones ;)
2) Make sure you have a good build-up before the drop. Generally, just keeping the same chord for a few measures and control the rhythm with the kick (or snare) going faster and faster can help.
3) At the drop, make sure the growl/wubs/whatever dubstep instrument(s) you are using cover the harmonic instruments, and keep the same chord througout the drop.
4) To leave the drop (optional), you remove all or most of the stuff that busts your ears and go back to a similar stucture as it was before the drop.
5) Generally, a dubstep song has two drops. You can put three or only one, depending on your amount of ideas, but make sure all of the following drops add something more, just enough to be surprising for the average listener.

The last tip I can give you is to regularly listen to dubstep. That way, you will easily recognize some tricks the dubstep composers use in their songs.

I hope I helped :)

If you want to have generic dubstep, you need more metal like sounds (adding a chorus and delay will do) and add harsh growls as filler basses. Cut the under 50hz frequencys with an EQ and add a sub to fatten it up. Use some hovering Supersaw Chords and an Arpeggiator to make it sound less empty. Get the 4/4 drum patern add some percs and splashes and your drop should be finished(Dont make the hats too loud or it will end up as brostep).
Basically Dubstep is defined, as you said, by its tempo between 135 bpm to155 bpm and its 4/4 Kick, Snare pattern. Listeners mosly dont know how to define a genre and will call everything dubstep even if its drumstep when it istnt full of hard basses.

I've listened to a load of Skrillex tonight and came up with this tune, hope it goes down well as it was a huge project. https://youtu.be/fdhsN6f3Upg