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I am a musician from the south of the UK, I like making music and playing with my synths. I've made game music and electronic music professionally in the past. I aim to keep on designing delightful and complex music for many years to come.

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Fraunhofer has dropped MP3 support...

Posted by maxxpump - May 23rd, 2017


Fraunhofer has dropped MP3 support...

So it looks like the head company which produced MP3 codec has dropped the codec in favour of a newer version of OGGVorbis, which means Cubase 10 when its released will most probably not have MP3 support, so what that means for Newgrounds which only has support for MP3 files, are they going to upgrade? or am I going to have an ordeal everytime I want to upload something (and no my bitching is not just me its across multi platforms and it looks like they are looking at phasing out MP3 on most systems, in the very near future, So this will mean musicians will be stuck with older decoders which will work for the mean while, but even Lame are stating that they are going to follow suit). 

I produce nearly all my files into MP3 so they work on Soundcloud, Mixcloud and Newgrounds, as well as in my car stereo. I want to in the future upgrade to a better DAW as Cubase 9 is lacking features which they removed since Cubase 5 in view of a more stream lined product. So when 10 comes out I most likely will have to upgrade (mainly as my studios service contract states they get value added upgrades when and where they come out. So that means I will be forced to upgrade anyway).

I don't like buggering around with converters and MP3 isn't the best and never has been the best format for music, and just wonder if Newgrounds are going to follow suit and upgrade to OGG or Wave.

What do you guys think do you think this is going to happen, or do you think NG will be lost to the ages.  

I'm currently working on a old popular song called "Strange Sounds", with usage of Serum I will be able to make this a very good sound scape. Not sure if I will use the original audio samples, what does everyone think! I'll post the original in a moment! Here it is on Youtube, I'm suprised its not in my Newgrounds directory!...https://youtu.be/jqGAAv8sFH4


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@TomFulp @NekoMika @Rig @Mich @liljim Thoughts? My guess is that we have to wait and see on that front, whether other DAWs follow suit, or buck the trend ourselves...

I'm not 100% sure when the makers of DAW's will follow, but to me it was worrying that the makers of lame said they were giving up the format. In the version of cubase I've got (Cubase 9 Elements), I had to buy a separate codec to burn off MP3 format, through Steinberg which states in the installer its directly from Fraunhofer. I went and did my weekly update a week ago and it stated my codec was no longer supported. I did a bit of research (I typed in MP3 into google and looked at the news and its all over the place. Will be interesting to see Tom's view on it and see if there is a contingency plan in place just incase. It just states everywhere that there will no longer by any support for MP3 format, and companies are no longer licensed to make encoders or decoders.

As i said in my last post it will be a right butt for me to upload in the future but as I'm mostly over the shock of seeing this I'll carry on with my external version of Lame (older version) if necessary.

But I don't see this as a good trend.

MP3 is everywhere, it isn't going to just go away because the patent ran out. I'm aware there are vastly better formats out there by now, but I'm fairly certain mp3 is the best supported audio format out there (be in in browser, media player applications, portable players, car stereos, and what have you).

That all said, I'm all for making the shift to newer, better formats, but moving the entire world of the mammoth that is mp3 isn't going to be something that happens quickly.

We'll adapt to whatever is necessary, will be talking to Jim and Josh about it. With the MP3 patent expired I could actually see it being MORE broadly supporter, because software makers don't have to pay licensing fees like they did in the past - that's why the MP3 creators are pushing a new platform, so they can collect fees on something new. Still, I want us to support the best formats of the future.